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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:10 am Reply with quote Report this post
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Treasure Island Media has been banned from the Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco.

Now IML has announced that they are banning TIM and ALL bareback companies from the marketplace.

http://www.treasureislandblog.com/2009/ ... m-iml.html

http://www.gayporntimes.com/hardnews/20 ... rketplace/


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:17 am Reply with quote Report this post
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I wonder how much of that decision is based on external pressure rather than internal.

I've attended IML from 2003 to 2009 (except for 2004), but in the last few years have not purchased the IML package, since it has been possible to reserve a room in the host hotel via the IML website without actually buying the package. The package consists mostly of tickets to events I don't care to attend, as well as the pass that gains free admittance to the market and the bar shuttle buses. (Oh...and the T-shirt.)

If the hotel policy continues as is, I might still consider attending, since the absence of bareback-promoting vendors won't inhibit the barebacking that occurs throughout the weekend. Indeed, my presence without contributing any money to IML could almost be a "fuck you" sort of protest. I don't attend out of any great commitment to IML; I just like being around hundreds of horny leathermen and getting laid a lot. So it would have no real impact on IML if I boycotted it.

OTOH, if enough guys decide to boycott, it would not only affect the quality of my personal weekend, but also would have a financial impact both on IML and the host hotel and ancillary businesses, and perhaps on the remaining Leather Mart vendors as well. And if TIM could not hold (or advertise) its Cockpit party (a highlight of my 2009 IML), I might be less inclined to go.

I suppose I could look into the Bear weekend...



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:33 pm Reply with quote Report this post
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International M. Leatherette..LOL what a bunch of wankers. Starnge to see somebody representing a community event based exhibition of "future markets". is every gay man only considered in teh USA only for its potential market value? hmm hmmm run away guys lol



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:45 pm Reply with quote Report this post
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I thought this may have been a joke until I went through the links and the Dark Alley blog. This is such a contradiction for us as members of the gay community. I could go into a detailed list of how silly this decision is for the executive staff with IML, but it seems so obvious to me (and probably you). Nonetheless, it is their event and their decision to openly ban and discriminate me based upon my sexual practices.


My initial thought is to save my money and not attend the event in 2010. However, how GREAT would it be if companies and distributors like Treasure Island Media were to set up shop within the hotel in their suites? Could it possibly be coordinated in a way that Treasure Island Media, Dark Alley, Dick Wadd, Spunk and others rented out an entire floor to host their own events, parties and retail space for the weekend? It could even be set up at an outside venue in Chicago during IML weekend. Uncertain how practical this would be, but just a thought!


PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:24 pm Reply with quote Report this post
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Kingsman, I don't think they are banning *you* based on what *you* do. They are banning businesses and organizations that promote and exhibit what you do.

I'm kind of on the fence about the whole thing. The bareback "community," if there is such a thing, is a very real and relevant thing, as are the makers of bareback porn, and to ban all things bareback is just to sweep it under the rug and treat it like it doesn't exist. It does, fact of the matter. I love watching guys fuck bareback, like Dawson, for example, and I find the kinds of adventures he gets into to be tremendously hot. I'm getting hard just typing this and thinking about it. Would I practice that in my personal life (now)? Not a chance, because I don't want to deal with the myriad of STDs available out there for me to deal with, namely HIV. I was wilder in my younger day, and amazingly enough stayed negative, and now I have a different outlook on the whole thing.

But regardless of how I was, therein lies the cornerstone of this issue. It's not syphillis, or chlamydia, or any of the "second tier" diseases that you can catch from sex (safe or unsafe, for that matter). Nor does it have anything to do with social morals or anything lofty like that. This is about HIV. I sometimes feel a bit hypocritical watching porn like Dawson's and enjoying it, because I myself would not do something like that. But the truth of it is that there are people out there who do, and they are adults and should be able to without any judgements. I think what the IML organization is largely missing is that one realization: barebacking will happen whether they ban it from their gatherings or not. It's the consequences of barebacking that need to be addressed.

I read on a blog today that it is especially abhorrent when young guys do bareback porn, because what they know and want or think they know and want at 18 or 20 or 25 might not be what they do when they are 35 or 40. I think if the realities of HIV and other STDs are addressed openly and without denial or sugarcoating, it might not be so abhorrent. If 20 year olds truly understand that barebacking can lead to HIV infection (but not always) and how the seroconversion feels and what the side effects of medication are and how the disease progresses, there might be some who shy away and some who continue to do it. Because let's face it, it just feels better, plain and simple. That's a reality. But at least then, instead of pretending that "banning" something like this will make a difference, we might better prepare younger generations who did not live through the early 80's in an urban city to make an informed decision.

OK, off my soapbox now.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:18 pm Reply with quote Report this post
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I really like what the IML board member mentioned in his letter (it's on the TIM Blog) that this seems to be targeted at TIM. I'd be seriously interested to know if they are going to expand this ban to include vendors that include non-condom friendly lubes and the like. That promotes bareback too, right? (sarcasm tag)

I've never been to IML, but if it's like any event that I've been to, the real fun isn't the planned stuff but what happens after. They're never going to be able to control that and they are never going to be able to control people's perosonal lives. I wonder how many of those leathermen on the stage competing for that title have had a load in their ass or planted a load recently? Or, even more, members of the board. It seems like those that hate and preach against barebacking the most usually participate in it.

I can't wait to see the response Paul and TIM does to this occurance. It's gonna be fun to watch. Keep up the good work TIM, and keep breedin!

As for the moral ambiguity... I've been poz since I was 23. The people I have sex with know I'm poz. I don't care about their status. If they want to take the risk, it's their decision and they make it with the information about my status. Personal responsibility is the key and too many people expect to be coddled. Adults don't have nannies, a person's decisions are their own. All we can do is make sure they know the facts when they make the decision.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:47 am Reply with quote Report this post
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Purely from a monetary point of view I think both IML and Folsom Street Fair organizers are short sighted. It's a safe bet that public attendance will be down this year due to the economy, and they will certainly lose some exhibitors who either can't afford to come or are no longer in business. To intentionally exclude other vendors and possibly piss off other attendees on top of it is foolish.


PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:34 pm Reply with quote Report this post
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well - i'm not sure what IML's motivation is other than to appear politically correct - but - Folsom is far more despicable - - - like their new sponsorship deal with Titan has nothing to do with it???


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:15 pm Reply with quote Report this post
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What about Up Your Alley this weekend? Did TIM get banned from that too?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:58 pm Reply with quote Report this post
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Quote:

I've attended IML from 2003 to 2009 (except for 2004), but in the last few years have not purchased the IML package, since it has been possible to reserve a room in the host hotel via the IML website without actually buying the package. The package consists mostly of tickets to events I don't care to attend, as well as the pass that gains free admittance to the market and the bar shuttle buses. (Oh...and the T-shirt.)
If you're reserving a room through the IML site, IML is getting a kickback from the hotel most likely. Your best bet is to reserve rooms outside their system or stay in another hotel.


PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:40 pm Reply with quote Report this post
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I didn't know about the ban from Folsom... fuck em!! so let's organise a giant cockpit party on sunday afternoon somewhere !!!!



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:27 pm Reply with quote Report this post
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Maxxxxxxxxx Paulllllllllll don't let us down at Folsom



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:20 pm Reply with quote Report this post
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

TREASURE ISLAND MEDIA "TOO HOT" FOR LEATHER EVENT CIRCUIT

IML Ban is Third for Controversial Bareback Studio, Following Folsom Street Fair and Dore Alley

San Francisco, CA -- August 1, 2009 -- Treasure Island Media (TIM), the award-winning gay studio founded by legendary director-producer Paul Morris, has been banned from attendance at and any form of participation in three major leather/fetish events in North America: Folsom Street Fair, Up Your Alley, and International Mr. Leather (IML).

Folsom Street Events, which runs Folsom Street Fair and Up Your Alley (more commonly called Dore Alley), has banned Treasure Island Media—which specializes in documentary-style gay bareback or condomless videos—from both events for ignoring guidelines at last year's Folsom Street Fair, specifically those concerning safe sex practices. As evidence, the San Francisco-based organization referred to photographs of bareback activities by fairgoers in and around the TIM booth. These photographs were posted by TIM on their blog.

Treasure Island Media, also based in San Francisco, doesn't deny the allegations. "We make videos about our world," said Matt Mason, TIM General Manager. "Folsom Street Fair is supposed to be about sharing and celebrating that world with the community, in the community.

"We thought Folsom was all about community," he added, "but it seems they don't appreciate our independent spirit."

The IML ban came as a shock both to Treasure Island Media—which has been a supporter and participant at the annual Chicago-based conference since 2003—and to the bareback community as a whole. In a letter from founder and president Chuck Renslow, the Executive Committee of IML announced that it "has decided that it will no longer allow participation in the IML Leather Market by any entity which promotes barebacking or distributes/sells any merchandise tending to promote or advocate barebacking. This restriction will also apply to distribution of gifts, post cards [sic] or any other information via our facilities."

At first blush, the ban appears to apply to all bareback companies equally.

However, an inside source who identified himself as a former IML title holder and member of International Mr. Leather's Board of Directors, informed TIM that the ban "target[s] your company specifically."

Despite the targeting, TIM isn't taking this personally. "We have nothing but respect for Chuck Renslow," said Matt Mason. "But we would never dream of imposing restrictions on anyone's ability to decide for themselves."

Response in the fan community has been sharply divided. At TIM's official blog (http://www.treasureislandblog.com/blog.htm), one anonymous commenter called IML "a bunch of hypocrites and cowards," while others vowed not to attend the conference or to do business "with any entity participating at IML."

On the flipside, other comments applauded IML's decision. "Bareback porn should be outlawed," one said. "You're just a bunch of sick people who need help. Thank GOD Chuck Renslow has stepped up and done something about it."

Treasure Island Media is no stranger to controversy. In addition to these event prohibitions, the studio caused a commotion in 2007, when it won for Best US Studio at the DAVID Awards in Berlin. In protest of a bareback company being so honored, the Lifetime Achievement Winner that year (Bruce Cam of Titan Media) declined his award.

Yet even as TIM is collecting bans from leather events, the GAYVN Awards—which have barred Treasure Island Media productions from eligibility in past years—are considering inviting the studio to the awards for 2010.

These criticisms haven't slowed down TIM—and, the studio promises, won't stop them. "For us, this is and always has been about freedom," said Mason. "Freedom of sexuality, and freedom for all of us to make our own decisions—about our fantasies and our realities. As long as we have these freedoms in America, Treasure Island Media will persevere."

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:34 am Reply with quote Report this post
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Well I don't think America is about freedom. Look at was is being imposed to you through an unofficial way, called the $ god which is the armed arm of censorship.

So what do we do at Folsom?? why do,'t you organise a visit of your offices and a booth there? even better an orgy !

I am not going to folsom this year , being screwed of 10$ to see a bunch of high pich voice over muscled puritain barbie dolls in leather.

I ll stay hanging around in the city instead. anyway Folsom is every year the same shit to be honnest.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:42 pm Reply with quote Report this post
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and the CP party !!! I fly from Europe for that !!!



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:31 pm Reply with quote Report this post
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I'll admit it, one of big reasons I'm bummed TIM isn't going to any of these events ... is they always have such great deals on DVDs. I usually stock up at $20-$30 each. Now I guess it's back to full price, which probably means I'll buy less :(


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